2011 World Cup: Round #4
August 26th-September 21st, 2011 (Khanty Mansiysk, Russia) Round #4 |
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| 1 | Polgar, J |
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HUN | Dominguez, L |
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| 2 | Ivanchuk, V |
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UKR | Bu Xiangzhi |
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| 3 | Zherebukh, Y |
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UKR | Navara, D |
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| 4 | Ponomariov, R |
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UKR | Bruzon, L |
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| 5 | Gashimov, V |
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AZE | Nielsen, P |
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| 6 | Potkin, V |
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RUS | Grischuk, A |
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| 7 | Radjabov, T |
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AZE | Jakovenko, D |
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| 8 | Svidler, P |
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RUS | Kamsky, G |
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Official Site: https://chess.ugrasport.com/
Games: Main Site, PGN (TWIC)
Drum Coverage: https://b2bsoftwares.com/client-daaim/blog/2011/08/25/2011-world-cup-khanty-mansiysk-russia/
To add some more context to this, here’s the September FIDE rankings.
1 Magnus Carlsen 2823
2 Viswanathan Anand 2817
3 Levon Aronian 2807
4 Vladimir Kramnik 2791
5 Sergey Karjakin 2772
6 Veselin Topalov 2768
7 Vassily Ivanchuk 2765
8 Ruslan Ponomariov 2758
9 Alexander Grischuk 2757
10 Gata Kamsky 2756
11 Vugar Gashimov 2756
12 Hikaru Nakamura 2753
13 Teimour Radjabov 2752
14 Shakhriyar Mamedyarov 2746
15 Boris Gelfand 2746
Judit Polgar 2701, but her performance rating in this particular tourney looks like its in the stratosphere!
Sup Putzer! U maybe right about Maurice Ashley making 2700,actually, now that u mentioned it I can see that happening fairly easily. Hi Adia!, Hi Diamond!, Hi Susan! and turn off that Judge Judy, Susan, im tryin checkin out my lil sista! lol Ultrathanks!!! Peace.
Go Judit!!!
Judit won a well fought battle that was full of instructive chess for the wanna be grandmaster. A series of tactical and strategical threats from both side that included cleverly hidden motifs such as Polgar’s constant threat on mate in one, which finally paid off after a fatigued Dominguez, who has played the last 6 games consecutively, finally made a mistake and over looked the increased threat of the check mate.
Bravo, Judit, bravo! Tomorrow her comeback to chess gets tested in the rapid playoffs! Good luck, after witnessing the fighting spirit Judit possesses, I can say she deserves to proceed to the next round!
Judit fan # 2
Bravo, Judit, bravo! Her comeback to chess gets tested in the rapid playoffs! Good luck, I can say she deserves to proceed to the next round!
With the fall of Kamsky (born in USSR) and Nielsen, The only two left that are not representing former Soviet lands are Polgar and Navara. But even they are from former Soviet satellites nations.
… and your point is what?
So the Indominable Lioness Judit Polgar has qualified for the 5th(!) round. I can not understand people who can compare her to any woman chess player around. The Women’s World Champion was eliminated easily in the early rounds, whereas our Judit has fought valiantly through, albeit surviving near falls! Let the great debate take place on the board! Judit has commented that she is often referred in various magazines as the Women’s World Champion (rightly so) and she has to remind them that she is actually the highest rated woman chessplayer. I believe FIDE out to honor her in with some honorary title. Let the great debate begin!
Viva Judit! Viva your Dad for the greatest revelation against gender discrimination in human history! Away with this nonsensical gender classification and YES to affirmative action to redress the wrong.
The Lion Queen ROARS through!
Go Judit, Go Judit, Go Judit………………
I’m sure (besides Judit being a woman), you are saying behind Judit because she is the clear favorite to win this tournament or that she is the rating favorite? I think only that she is a strong woman thats why you say,
Interesting point, if she was doing this without no-one mention that J. Polgar is a woman, would you or Shabazz here wish to mention it to us, in the same manner that we were reminded that Carlsen could have been the youngest World champion had he not withdrawn from the World Championship cycle? Let’s be true people we all support Judit because she is a woman otherwise whilst ridding the nonsensical gender titles why not rid of the ridiculous rating system, given that a 2701 (Polgar) is clearly better than say a 2772 (Karjakin). Otherwise if 2772 means clear favorite then we must without doubt rally behind the player with greatest Elo.
Actually I read an interesting article on ratings. It stated that any player 200 ratings points higher than another is expected to win 3 out of every 4 games. Perhaps this holds true statistically over a large number of tournaments and a large number of players. So to extrapolate, comparing Polgar to Karjakin, the 71 point difference just means that Karjakin is supposed to win 2+ games out of 4.
I agree the weakness is that it’s only numbers and doesn’t factor in things like matchups…which are huge! If I’m right, an attacker should have more trouble against a lower rated player that is good at disguising defenses than just a lower rated attacker. And higher rated players play differently against lower rated players. If I’m right, they are advised to be patient and allow the lower rated player to make mistakes. But I think the numbers theory is meant to apply better as the number of games goes up; just like rolling snake eyes might not look like 1 in 36 if you’re having a bad day. If you compile the career record of Leko versus Shankland just for the games in which they were separated by 200 points, Leko is theoretically supposed to be in the lead in those games by a factor of 3 out of 4. But if there aren’t enough games satisfying the criteria you won’t see it. Perhaps a better way to see if the theory is right is to look at a single player and his career record over players rated an average of 200 points lower. On day 1 of this tournament, Polgar was supposed to be 3 out of 4 against players averaging 2501 and Karjakin is supposed to be 3 out of 4 against players averaging 2572. It can be looked up if that was approximately true.
I suggest you organize a Polgar vs Carlsen match. It could be interesting but, it would have absolutely nothing to do with smoking out the best (he-she) player in the world.
As a matter of fact, the best player in the world is the person male or female whoes name affords the prefix World Champion.
For example, 4 times World Champion Visvanathan Anand.
We can clearly see winning (even qualifying for) a World Championship match is much more complex and demanding than sporting a high Elo profile.
Who benefits from all this World NoOne, Worlds highset rated female baloney? No one!
The goal has always been (and always will be) to become the World Champion; which implies being the best player in the world.
In short, there is no guarantee that if Judit were to play in the Women’s World Championships, she’d be the victor. She therefore is not the best female player in history as per quote,
Maybe you need to take a reality check mate!